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mark67
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Posted - 11 December 2017 :  8:40:01 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mark67 to your friends list

Does not show up for the big games tho


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Posted - 11 December 2017 :  8:45:13 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phoenixicus to your friends list

Not many top class players do as the opposing teams nullify them.
This then creates opportunities for others.

A certain 5 times Ballon D'or winner does not have a stella record in major international tournaments.
Yet apart from a world cup he has won every award in the game.


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Pontius Pilate
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Posted - 13 December 2017 :  12:49:13 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pontius Pilate to your friends list

pogba makes united tick at the mo, no pogba no united but I suppose you spend 89 million on players that make a difference..........
united needed a striker last summer and had grizeman done in my opinion until atletico got banned which left them with ither morata or lukaku....
I wanted morata but i think theres a lot of bad blood between real and united which made it very hard so lukaku was realistically the only choice.....
He will def score goals but i think we will be back in for grizeman next summer.
if jose had got grizeman and perisc like he wanted we would be a lot closer to city in the league in my opinion.


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Pontius Pilate
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Posted - 13 December 2017 :  12:50:22 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Pontius Pilate to your friends list

but im more than happy with second at the mo after the last 4 seasons in the league and im sure ill see more silver wear lifted this season.


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I dont doubt You will go on to buy more silverware, and its nice to hear from ya but seeing Manure get what they been giving for years especialy from the Blue side of Manchester and sulking is Priceless



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Posted - 13 December 2017 :  07:01:16 AM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phoenixicus to your friends list

Rare visit PP - staying or just passing through


Good news about the Qatar contract


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Posted - 13 December 2017 :  7:00:42 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Northantslad to your friends list

Yea pogba does make a difference, not always a good one though, a game the other week he was just doing that jog of his when he should have been sprinting back to mark the player who was left free to score, then its balanced with the brilliance of teeing up that goal the other day.

I'm still not convinced with him, been some flashes of brilliance and good performances admittedly, but I think we would benefit more and be more of a consistent force if he put in a 4 out of 5 every game, rather than a 3 one week, a 4 the next and the odd 5. Trouble is, I also see him still as a player Fergie didn't rate and let go, then we spent 89mill to get back. Fergie wasn't always right admittedly and Pogba does come across as the type who could clash personality wise with him, but I want to give him a chance to prove that price tag.

With you PP in that I would take second quite happily now, but wasn't quite what was realistically hoping for back in August.


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Posted - 13 December 2017 :  7:29:52 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Wise Owl to your friends list

Neither was he


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Posted - 13 December 2017 :  7:59:30 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mark67 to your friends list

The way Burnley are going they might get second


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Posted - 27 December 2017 :  6:48:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shang to your friends list

So, van Dijk - overpriced at 75 million or are they going to recoup some money from selling Coutinho ?


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Posted - 27 December 2017 :  7:01:38 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phoenixicus to your friends list

So this is a centre half that threw his toys out,plays for an international side that failed to qualify for the World Cup,has hardly become a house hold name in the past two seasons and before Saints was plying his trade at Celtic.

75 million? - could have bought 2 or 3 good defenders for that
Can see this one going t*ts up



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He's not worth that imo. But might be worth that to Liverpool over time if he helps to improve their defence.


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Posted - 28 December 2017 :  12:01:09 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phoenixicus to your friends list

Man City didn't think he was worth less than that so that would be a good benchmark.

Liverpool now after De Vrij who is IMO the better of the two Dutch centre halves.
At least Liverpool are showing intent


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Posted - 21 January 2018 :  12:44:19 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add shang to your friends list

Well done Watford on sacking another good manager... who would want to go there fully expecting to be out the door in one season ?





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Posted - 21 January 2018 :  2:28:51 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RUDDLES to your friends list

He should have gone to everton he showed some loyalty by staying then gets sacked really poor by the Watford board.


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Maybe it's the way I remember things but don't Watford always tail off after Xmas ? A few years back I rated their Quique Flores but he got the push too.

These sackings must be costing Watford a few quid !


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he should of gone to sunderland and he could of had christmas off , we have a good/bad record on managers


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quote :
Originally posted by Wise Owl

I dont doubt You will go on to buy more silverware, and its nice to hear from ya but seeing Manure get what they been giving for years especialy from the Blue side of Manchester and sulking is Priceless
Yeah being a blue since i was a kid Bert Trautmans era in those days it was fairly equal split of mancs with both teams and the players got on buses.Then big money came in and the red half as had it for years but i'm a great believer what goes around comes around and we know who can't handle it.After all the true supporters are the ones that go every week win or lose to the clubs with no money they are the proper football fans.


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quote :
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quote :
Originally posted by Wise Owl

I dont doubt You will go on to buy more silverware, and its nice to hear from ya but seeing Manure get what they been giving for years especialy from the Blue side of Manchester and sulking is Priceless
Yeah being a blue since i was a kid Bert Trautmans era in those days it was fairly equal split of mancs with both teams and the players got on buses.Then big money came in and the red half as had it for years but i'm a great believer what goes around comes around and we know who can't handle it.After all the true supporters are the ones that go every week win or lose to the clubs with no money they are the proper football fans.


Did it all through the 80s mate was rewarded in 92 but apart from a semi final in The European cup it's been mainly downhill with letdown after letdown, but guess what im loud proud Leeds Utd till i die


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Posted - 23 January 2018 :  12:50:49 PM  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Northantslad to your friends list

Spud, I don't think you can categorise the 'trueness' of fans based on wealth of their club. I do think though that the real game is played in the lower leagues these days.

When i have moaned about where Utd are at, i have also spared a thought for how other fans whose clubs are in worse positions may be feeling, so some of us are capable of a reality check and don't lord it.

Whilst i think Utds long term and prolonged success was due to the financial situation available, the initial success was down to largely home grown talent, i am not sure it was/is quite the same with City.

If we are going play top trumps or poker with names as a measure of how true we are, then i must refer to the Dave Sexton and Ron Atkinson eras, a small handful of trophies (Charity Shield & FA Cups), money available in Atkinson's case, plenty of names brought with it for not alot of impact.

Money doesn't always guarantee success, but it helps, along with the right manager, the shared values from top to bottom and the right players, on the latter, having plenty of wages to offer doesn't always guarantee the right player with the right mindset.

I think with City, the money has come first, but they have also got the rest of the above right now.


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